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Post subject: Michelle Borth in 'Tell me you love me' (720p/HD version)
PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:48 pm
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This is the beautiful Michelle Borth in 'Tell me you love me'. Michelle's sex scenes in this tv series seemed very real. I don't know if it has been conformed to be real or not. Anyway, judge for yourself. This is Michelle's first sex scene, from episode 1.



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I got the dvd of this but haven't watched it in a while, i'm not sure but during one of the sex scenes doesn't she move in a way where you can see the guy is totally flacid? (SOMEHOW :wink:)


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Vidman, if you can this in HD please look for Ep 6 and Ep 7.

Ep 6 is with Ian Somerhalder and it starts off with him going down on her. The scene is somewhat dark but HD will show up a number of gyno views of Michelle. She then puts a condom on him and is either riding him, or rubbing against his dick.

Ep 7 also has gyno views that will be worth looking in HD.


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TheAnalyst wrote:
Vidman, if you can this in HD please look for Ep 6 and Ep 7.

Ep 6 is with Ian Somerhalder and it starts off with him going down on her. The scene is somewhat dark but HD will show up a number of gyno views of Michelle. She then puts a condom on him and is either riding him, or rubbing against his dick.

Ep 7 also has gyno views that will be worth looking in HD.


I have both scenes on my site in HD (the scene from episode 7 will be part of tomorrows update). Will check 'em out for any actual gyno shots. Thanks for the tip!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:01 pm
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Is your site the VideoLibrary?


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TheAnalyst wrote:
Is your site the VideoLibrary?


No, not anymore. A link to my site is in the first post of this thread.


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The Episode 6 sex scene is the one I could almost swear is real. I have done slo-mo and still shots and in one position particularly, I think when he is on top, I swear you can see his erect penis going in and out where her vagina should be... I guess he could be going in and out of her butt-crack or something, but it's damn close to sex if it isn't sex...

No matter what they actually did, all the scenes involve them rubbing genitals without a significant in-between like a modesty patch, so it's basically sex even without penetration.

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StingingVelvet wrote:
The Episode 6 sex scene is the one I could almost swear is real. I have done slo-mo and still shots and in one position particularly, I think when he is on top, I swear you can see his erect penis going in and out where her vagina should be... I guess he could be going in and out of her butt-crack or something, but it's damn close to sex if it isn't sex...


He is wearing a condom in that scene and was definitely erect. Hopefully we get to see the HD version. Either way there are gyno views of Michelle.


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Post subject: Re: Michelle Borth in 'Tell me you love me' (720p/HD version
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vidman wrote:
This is the beautiful Michelle Borth in 'Tell me you love me'. Michelle's sex scenes in this tv series seemed very real. I don't know if it has been conformed to be real or not.


It has cetainly been denied on numerous occasíons but by the director and the actress (somehow noone seems to have asked the actor), but it's still very much open to discussion whether they are telling the truth.


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Post subject: Re: Michelle Borth in 'Tell me you love me' (720p/HD version
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Jokker wrote:
vidman wrote:
This is the beautiful Michelle Borth in 'Tell me you love me'. Michelle's sex scenes in this tv series seemed very real. I don't know if it has been conformed to be real or not.


It has cetainly been denied on numerous occasíons but by the director and the actress (somehow noone seems to have asked the actor), but it's still very much open to discussion whether they are telling the truth.


The director who denied it and said she would never film that was only the director of the first episode, I believe... or at least she did not direct all of them.

Also, Borth never flat-out denied it, saying only "it was not pronography" or something similar... the lack of a clear NO answer is suspect on its own, really.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:19 am
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They used prosthetics in some scenes to simulate an erection.

Keep in mind they used regular actors, not porn veterans, and that it was shot and edited like a normal scene in a TV show, not gonzo porn. Every time the camera cuts to a new angle, it's not as if the scene continues with another camera. It means the director says "cut", the action stops for the actors and the technicians. They generally do a second, third or fourth take of the very same action, then they move to the next part of the scene. They might shoot with a second camera to go faster but a second camera requires three or four more guys in the room, watching everything.

The promiscuity, the hours you spend on the stage for the scene, the repetitivity would make it difficult for any male actor to stay hard, unless he's on Viagra. For his partner, the conditions would be even more uncomfortable than for a regular porn actress.

Most of the few mainstream actresses that shot actual hardcore scenes did them with a former or current boyfriend (Chloe Sevigny, Gry Bay...), as they were more comfortable. It's far fetched to assume that they did the casting for a TV show with such concerns.


The show tried to be realistic but it doesn't mean everything is real. It actually requires care and trickery to achieve realism. You might see some balls that belong to the actual actor but the erections and the penetrations are definitely not real.

Concerning Michelle Borth, what would you have expected her to say? To explain that in that particular scene she wore a safety triangle, that in another scene the guy's dick was in a tube sock, that in another scene, it was a prosthetic that went that close to her lips? I guess that the producers decided to stay vague and that the actresses preferred to deflect the questions for the interviews to focus on their craft.


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You can say all you want, but the truth is you don't have any more facts of what happened on those closed sets than I do.

If you watch the episode 6 scene it's pretty obvious the guy has a real erection and is putting it somewhere near her vagina... I never said they are actually having sex, just that it's a possibility, and is not unheard of, and more to the point him rubbing his erect dick on her crotch is basically sex, penetration or not.

You could argue he was wearing some kind of prosthesis to make it look like he had an erection, but I doubt it.


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Shootthedog wrote:
They used prosthetics in some scenes to simulate an erection.

Concerning Michelle Borth, what would you have expected her to say? To explain that in that particular scene she wore a safety triangle, that in another scene the guy's dick was in a tube sock, that in another scene, it was a prosthetic that went that close to her lips? I guess that the producers decided to stay vague and that the actresses preferred to deflect the questions for the interviews to focus on their craft.


Prosthetics were used when Sonya Walger was giving the handjob.

Michelle Borth didn't wear a safety triangle because there are plenty of crotch shots to prove otherwise. If Vidman does share the HD vids we will be able to see if she went gynocam but you get to see her crotch albeit not with great clarity.


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StingingVelvet wrote:
You can say all you want, but the truth is you don't have any more facts of what happened on those closed sets than I do.


I never claimed to have more. I just made some logical deductions. Of course, the actors could have had real sex, I don't have any proof against it but I think it's just logical that the production used every trick in the book to prevent it. It's easier to get regular actors when they get promised that every scene will be simulated, that's all.

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If you watch the episode 6 scene it's pretty obvious the guy has a real erection and is putting it somewhere near her vagina... I never said they are actually having sex, just that it's a possibility, and is not unheard of, and more to the point him rubbing his erect dick on her crotch is basically sex, penetration or not.

You could argue he was wearing some kind of prosthesis to make it look like he had an erection, but I doubt it.


Is it the scene where she's eaten out during a long take, then she has sex and gets on top? I don't see any erection.

The best comparision would be with "Lie With Me", starring Lauren Lee Smith and Eric Balfour. They used some actual nudity, even with gyno shots, but every time contact was supposed to take place, they had simulation and/or prosthetics. It's just too difficult to make a convincing performance when you're busy having sex or getting an unwelcome erection. Besides, I guess the actors don't know themselves how they would behave. That's not something you learn in acting school.


I don't doubt there was some intimate contact in other productions or that some of the stuff they did on "Tell Me..." was borderline but I doubt that a TV show produced by an established premium channel would risk to shoot and broadcast anything close to real hardcore sex when they shoot it. Just think about the litigations they could get. Any contract that required the actors to have actual intercourse on set or an affirmation by an actor that they were asked to have sex by the director could cost them millions. HBO must save their collective asses, while an indie production company with little money and "artistic purposes" could get more from the cast.


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